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Old Oct 29, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50   #1
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So just as a way to help out new alliance members and to make a little cash when I'm bored I was looking into joining the horde of Droks runners. My question is which is a better Droks runner. Tried a perma sin and while he could run it, energy was a huge problem and I had to wait a lot for IAU to recharge. I know a dervish runner is faster. Is it easier as well? Also what Deldrimor and Norn rank would be the lowest rank that would be able to easily run this? (Please dont say 1 or 10, I know 10 is best and 1 works, but Im dont have time to get another character to 10)

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Old Oct 29, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57   #2
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With a D/A, it is literally impossible to fail unless you suck. No ranks of any titles are even needed, unless you feel you must have the skills from them to complete the run (you really don't, though).
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Old Oct 29, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12   #3
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Ok so what build would run then without any of the title skills?
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Old Oct 29, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27   #4
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Ok so what build would run then without any of the title skills?
Either can run it with just regular skills. The pve skills just make it that much easier. With the A/E you have to be careful at the part where there's a bunch of giants, but that's it really. But i'd say go with A/E because it's literally 123 then press R and repeat
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Old Oct 29, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #5
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Code:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/A_Dark_Silence_Runner
Pretty much that. EotN skills just make it even easier than how lolwtfincredibly easy it has always been. Hasn't failed me yet.
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Old Oct 29, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43   #6
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If you start doing it more often, you should start using the faster build with the PvE only skills:

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Pious Haste, Dash, Dark Prison, Don't Trip!, I Am Unstoppable!, Vow Of Silence, ( Optional )

( I like to take Vital Boon just in case you run into a bad spawn )
I don't have any title and the duration of the shouts are still sufficient.

I used to use the one Faer posted, but the one with the PvE only skills is a lot faster ( 14 minutes against 21 minutes )
You have 2 teleports, so you can skip small bits and you don't have to re-cast Fleeting Stability every 2 seconds.
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Old Oct 29, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11   #7
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Eh? I've tried D/A and A/E...If your using Perma-Sin, you should be fine, full radiant armor, attunement on every part except for the Headgear with +3 Shadow Arts. Yes, it is VERY easy to mess up with a D/A, in my opinion, easier then a Perma-SF. With a perma you cast your first three skills and your good to go. With Vow of Silence, your still vulnerable to attack, you can't self heal while VoS is up, and it's tough to use in a lot of situations. D/A, faster (Always having a speed boost), A/E, slower, easier to handle and easier to run with.
Edit: Instead of IAU go with Dwarven Stability and bring a few beers. It's 24 seconds initially same energy cost, same recharge plus your stances last longer meaning you run for longer periods of time. Crippled shouldn't be a problem with A/E in the run, and +Armor is only needed against things that can go through Shadow Form...and thats hardly anything. Bring Shadow Sanctuary and you'll be good to go for anything that would hit through shadow form.
@Faer, don't flame people who can't do it. We're not all gifted with perfect timing and embedded with knowledge on how to run it perfectly.

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Old Oct 29, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #8
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D/A=Faster, Tad Harder

A/E=Slower, Easier
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06   #9
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I don't understand why you guys are implying that ONLY a Dervish has a constant speed boost and is faster. You can easily maintain a constant speed boost with a A/E as well.

Glyph > Paradox > SF > Dwarven Stability > Dash > Dark Escape > Dash (just as Dwarven Stability is wearing off) > repeat. You end up with the same amount of energy every time you cycle through, there's zero downtime, and you spend every second in a run stance.

So, hands down, the A/E running build requires far less micromangement and is just as fast as a Dervish runner. I don't think anyone would argue that it isn't fundamentally easier to run with an A/E too.

If you're looking to make a Droks runner, make an A/E. When you get tired of running, there's a TON of solo Shadow Form farming locations that you can get into.
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